Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast Inside COP: The COP30 President Speaks, the Summit Begins
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Nov 10, 2025 André Corrêa do Lago, Brazil’s COP30 President and seasoned diplomat, dives into the challenges of steering a pivotal climate summit. He discusses the difference between negotiation and implementation, emphasizing the need for tangible progress to restore public trust. The conversation highlights how to balance leadership and impartiality while showcasing Brazil's strategies for environmental restoration. André also reflects on emerging economies' potential to lead the charge and tackle the pressing 1.5°C goal amidst a divided global landscape.
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Why COP30 Is In Belém
- The COP presidency rotates by UN region and alphabetical order, which explains why Brazil hosts COP30 in Belém.
- Brazil chose Belém to spotlight the Amazon and underline forests' central role in climate action.
Impartiality Plus Negotiation Experience
- The COP president must be impartial but can bring personality and process knowledge to the role.
- André Corrêa do Lago is unique as the first negotiator to become COP president and aims to use that experience positively.
From Negotiation To Implementation
- COP30 must show progress on implementation rather than negotiate a single treaty like Paris did.
- The president needs a clear, communicable package proving momentum across many strands of action.