Who Owns The Future? 'SuperShifts' Authors Ja-Naé Duane and Steven Fisher Talk AI, Ethics, and Leadership

Sep 4, 2025

In this engaging conversation, Ja-Naé Duane, a behavioral scientist and co-author of 'SuperShifts', and Steven Fisher, a design futurist, delve into the transformative potential of AI in leadership. They discuss the importance of blending human values with AI decision-making and how the pandemic has spurred new leadership frameworks. The duo emphasizes the need for ethical governance in the AI revolution and advocates for a systems-thinking approach in modern leadership. Get ready to explore how AI can enhance our roles rather than replace them!

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COVID Sparked Leadership Work On AI

Ja-Naé's AI journey began during COVID when Deloitte asked her to help 40 CEOs rethink Europe's restart.
That work exposed governance, ethics and responsibility questions that shaped SuperShifts.

INSIGHT

We’re Entering An Age Of Intelligence

We are transitioning from a 200-year Age of Machines into an Age of Intelligence driven by symbiotic human-AI relationships.
This macro historical lens helps leaders plan long-term while acting with short-term tactical urgency.

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Filmmaking Revealed AI's Creative Power

Steve's moment came from using generative tools in filmmaking and prototyping, letting him create work previously unaffordable.
That hands-on capability convinced him of AI's transformative power for products and storytelling.

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✨ Unlock a Future Where AI Inspires Leadership—not Replaces It

Join us as host Dietmar brings you an insightful conversation with SuperShifts co-authors Dr. Ja-Naé Duane and Steven Fisher.

Together, we explore how AI-first leadership, systems thinking, and human-AI collaboration converge to reshape the way we lead and thrive in the age of intelligence.

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➡️ Key Highlights

Understanding AI-First Leadership through the lens of SuperShifts
The pandemic's role in inspiring new leadership frameworks and agile mindsets
Blending human values with AI-powered decision-making
Why systems thinking, foresight, and possibility are essential tools for modern leaders

🧾 Quotes from the Episode

- “The most successful leader won’t be the one who predicts the future—but the one who shapes it.”

- “In the Age of Intelligence, possibility itself becomes the most valuable capital.”

- “Our role as leaders is to bring humanity into the algorithm, not replace it.”

👓 Chapters (experimental)

00:00 Introduction – What is SuperShifts?

05:12 From Pandemic to Paradigm Shift: How SuperShifts Was Born

12:45 AI-First Leadership: Reimagining How We Lead

20:30 Human-AI Collaboration: Balancing Ethics and Innovation

28:10 Systems Thinking and SuperShifts Framework

35:00 Applied Strategies: Leading in the Age of Intelligence

🔗 Where to Find Ja-Naé Duane and Steven Fisher

Dr. Ja-Naé Duane: Ja-Nae.IO
Steven Fisher — StevenFisher.IO

And here you'll find:

SuperShifts: Transforming How We Live, Learn, and Work in the Age of Intelligence

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