The Ezra Klein Show

The Emergent Trump Doctrine

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Jun 3, 2025
Emma Ashford, a Senior Fellow at the Stimson Center and author of the forthcoming book “First Among Equals,” dives into the complexities of Trump's foreign policy. She discusses Trump's unexpected nuclear ambitions with Iran and his fraught relationship with Israel's Netanyahu. The conversation also touches on his unique peacemaking narrative, fluctuating dynamics in U.S.-Saudi relations, and how domestic politics shape international decisions. Ashford unpacks the inconsistencies in Trump's 'America First' approach and its impact on global diplomacy.
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Trump's America First Approach

  • Trump’s foreign policy can be summarized as "America First," focusing on U.S. interests narrowly defined.
  • However, Trump's personal preferences, like favoring gifts from leaders, sometimes complicate this agenda.
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Trump as Final Decider

  • Trump acts more as a final decider now, unlike in his first term.
  • He wants loyal advisors who present options but ultimately support his decisions.
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Trump's Complex Israel Stance

  • Inside the administration, support for Israel is strong but conditional.
  • Trump supports Israel but grows frustrated when he feels taken advantage of.
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