
Steve Deace Show WHOA: Exposing the Direct Connection Between UAPs and the Occult | Guest: Colin Samul | 10/31/25
Oct 31, 2025
Colin Samul, an ordained Presbyterian minister and host of the Cultish podcast, dives deep into the eerie connections between UFOs/UAPs and the occult. His background fuels a riveting discussion on everything from the historical ties of occult practices to modern UFO sightings, including the influence of figures like Aleister Crowley. Colin argues for the spiritual language emerging in UFO discourse and how historical narratives may intertwine with abduction phenomena. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the importance of spiritual vigilance in the face of cultural fascination.
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UAP Rebranding And Interdimensional Pattern
- The UAP/UFO label was rebranded by intelligence circles to control the narrative during disclosure.
- The phenomenon displays patterns suggesting interdimensional activity, not simple extraterrestrial visitation.
Personal Path From Occult To Presbyterian
- Colin grew up around occult and New Age influences and later converted to Christianity at 21.
- His firsthand history fuels why he studies UFOs from a Christian-apologetic perspective.
Core Definition Of The Occult
- The occult centers on secret knowledge and forbidden initiation into the spirit world.
- It arises from seeing God's revelation as insufficient and promising hidden power to seekers.







