American hero, Gregory Boyle, Homeboy Industries, breaking through gang tribalism.

Midterms are over, Sessions has been fired, Trump has two months till the new House arrives. I’m on vacation and can’t respond to any of that. This week you’ll hear my April 2010 conversation with Father Gregory Boyle, founder of Homeboy Industries. We’re joined by Luiz Perez, one of the senior staff at Homeboy. My guests and their work run absolutely counter to the kinds of prejudice and ugliness indulged in by the President.