The transgender rights movement in America appeared to be gaining momentum. But after suffering a big loss before the Supreme Court in June and facing a shift in public opinion, where does the fight go now?

On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross is joined by Chase Strangio, a transgender rights activist and a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union, to discuss strategy in the courtroom and in the court of public opinion — as well as broader philosophical questions about transgender identity.

02:15 - Bostock vs. Clayton County
08:30 - United States v. Skrmetti
22:57 - Defining sex, gender identity and transgender identity
32:52 - Chase talks about “coming home”
40:42 - Healthcare for transgender youth is changing
56:58 - Sports and transgender athletes
1:07:49 - Coexistence within the debate

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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