In this insightful interview, I’m joined by Marcia Bonato Warren, a trauma-informed body therapist, somatic counselor, interculturalist, and author. Marcia brings over 30 years of experience working with cross-cultural mental health, and she shares a powerful lens on how identity, culture, and trauma intersect in the body.

Together, we explore the concept of embodied code switching, how our bodies carry cultural and ancestral imprints, and how healing often involves not just the mind, but movement, sensation, and deep awareness of the self. Marcia discusses her personal journey as a Brazilian and Native American woman navigating multiple cultural worlds—and how her lived experience shaped her professional path and inspired her new book.

This episode is a rich blend of personal storytelling, professional insight, and hope for a more connected, empathetic world.

Key Discussion Points:

Marcia’s multicultural background growing up between Pueblo traditions and Brazilian culture
What it means to experience culture somatically when language isn’t accessible
The definition and practice of embodied code switching
How somatic therapy works and how the body holds trauma, history, and healing
Cultural embodiment and the importance of body-based awareness across social, emotional, and environmental realms
The internal work of bridging identities that may feel in conflict
Intergenerational trauma and healing as a form of cultural resilience
Marcia’s new book as a form of protest and empowerment amid sociopolitical turmoil
The value of curiosity and reclaiming our sense of wonder

Timestamps:

00:00 – Intro to Marcia and her multicultural upbringing 04:30 – Advocating through names and early sense of identity 09:00 – Growing up between cultures and learning through somatic experience 14:00 – Noticing what it feels like to “not belong” in any cultural space 17:00 – The physical experience of fitting in (or not) 20:00 – What is somatic counseling and body-based psychotherapy? 24:00 – Holding multiple identities and forming relationships between them 28:00 – Embodied code switching: definitions and origins 35:00 – Identity, trauma, and resilience in the nervous system 40:00 – Diversity, empathy, and learning across differences 43:30 – Somatics, symbolism, and healing in therapy 47:00 – Marcia’s career in advocacy and transition to therapy 52:00 – Her new book as resistance and hope in a polarized world 58:30 – Book structure, audience, and why it matters now 1:06:00 – Final reflections on curiosity, awareness, and personal power

Guest Links:

Website: https://www.embodiedculture.com Book Info & Resources: https://www.embodiedcodeswitching.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marciabonatowarren Buy the Book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Movement-Identity-Multiculturalism-Awareness-Code-Switching/dp/1839978376

Contact Me:

Email: duffthepsych@gmail.com
Website: https://duffthepsych.com
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