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Realizing that money is a tool, it's not a metric for success, it's a nice side product of success, but it's a tool for allowing you to live a time-rich and experience-rich life and really live in ways that allow you to not only follow but discover passions that you never realize you had.
Today's episode revisits a conversation that took place well before I ever had a podcast of my own. Tim Ferriss interviewed me for episodes 41 and 42 of his podcast. The questions he posed to me tended to be a bit more rambling and circuitous than his eventual interview style, and that's part of the fun of listening to this episode.
In this conversation, Tim and I talk about the idea of success management, that is how to live your life once you technically become successful, and how to live that success in a way that reflects who you really are, rather than who your success would imply you're supposed to be. We also talk about achievement versus appreciation and the importance of present-state awareness and being willing to try new things.
We discuss the fears that can keep us from traveling, how technology can both help and hinder journeys, and the benefits of getting lost and walking until your day becomes interesting on the road. We also touch on the importance of reading and writing, and how exploring different genres can benefit your prose, even if you don't master those genres.
The podcast episode explores the speaker's personal writing habits and the importance of discipline in the creative process. The speaker emphasizes the need to overcome the allure of distractions and to create a structured writing routine. He highlights the value of setting goals and pushing through challenges to achieve creative success.
The speaker discusses the experience of writing a pulpy screenplay for fun and the insights gained from working on a low-stakes project. He reflects on the importance of experimentation and taking risks in creative pursuits. The speaker shares how challenging oneself with new and different writing projects can provide a fresh perspective and enhance creative growth.
The podcast explores the concept of swoopers and bashers in the writing process. Swoopers are individuals who quickly draft their work and spend time revising and perfecting later, while bashers meticulously craft each sentence before moving on to the next. The speaker highlights the validity of both approaches and emphasizes the importance of finding a writing method that suits one's own style and preferences.
The speaker introduces the concept of flâneur, the act of aimlessly wandering and observing one's surroundings. He discusses how getting lost and exploring without a set destination can lead to unexpected discoveries and inspire creativity. The speaker highlights the importance of embracing beginner's mind and being open to new experiences in order to enhance one's perspective on the world.
“Billionaires can’t take a week off? What’s the point of having a billion dollars if they have fewer options than I do?” –Tim Ferriss
In this episode of Deviate, Rolf and Tim discuss common travel fantasies, and the fears that keep people from traveling (5:00); how we can redefine what “wealth” is and live fuller lives (18:00); why keeping a healthy perspective on information intake, technology, and “efficiency” is important, both on the road and in daily life (25:00); the “beginner’s mind,” and tips for writing and creativity (54:00); the merits of going on foot and “getting lost” on the road, and how this figured into Rolf’s writing classes (1:17:00); notions of “success,” and how to definite the notion of success in a way that enhances one’s way of being in the world (1:37:00); and Rolf’s recommendations for drinks, food, documentaries, books, and poetry (1:50:00);
Tim Ferriss (@tferriss) is a best-selling author and podcaster.
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The Deviate theme music comes from the title track of Cedar Van Tassel’s 2017 album Lumber.
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