After their conversation for The Daily Stoic Podcast, Ryan gives communication expert and The Next Conversation author Jefferson Fisher book recommendations at The Painted Porch.

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📖 Get signed copies of Jefferson Fischer's book The Next Conversation: Argue Less, Talk More, at The Painted Porch!

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