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The Bulwark Podcast

S2 Ep1023: Ben Wittes: Sorry, We Still Have Due Process

Apr 17, 2025
Ben Wittes, Editor-in-chief of Lawfare and governance studies fellow at the Brookings Institution, dives deep into the complexities of due process amidst government actions against immigrants like Abrego Garcia. He discusses Judge Boasberg's firm stance against defiance in legal rulings and critiques the administration's inconsistent narratives surrounding key figures, including Vladimir Putin. Wittes emphasizes the importance of judicial accountability and the intricate balance between executive power and civil liberties, shedding light on the real human stories behind legal battles.
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Quick takeaways

  • The podcast discusses the government's extrajudicial actions regarding immigration, emphasizing that due process must be upheld in legal matters.
  • It highlights the critical tension between individual immigration cases like Abrego Garcia's and the need for broader systemic reforms in policy discussions.

Deep dives

Violation of Court Orders

A recent case involves the actions of Judge Boesberg regarding the transport of Venezuelans who were allegedly members of criminal organizations. Despite an order to prevent their deportation while flights were en route, the government ignored the directive, leading to the transfer of over 260 individuals to the Salvadoran government. The Judge asserted that the government's actions constituted a willful violation of his order and suggested that individuals within the government could be held in contempt. This situation highlights concerns over the respect for judicial processes and complicates the management of immigration cases.

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