Climate Confident Why Civil Disobedience Matters in the Climate Fight - Jonathon Porritt
In this week’s episode of the Climate Confident podcast I sat down with one of the true veterans of climate activism, Jonathon Porritt. For over five decades Jonathon has been a leading voice on sustainability, from his early days in the Green Party and Friends of the Earth to his most recent book Love, Anger, and Betrayal.
We explored what he calls the “science–politics gap” - the dangerous disconnect between what climate science tells us and how slowly politicians respond. Jonathon was clear: unless that gap is narrowed, our prospects as a species are in serious jeopardy. We also delved into why he believes civil disobedience is a legitimate and necessary part of climate action. Through movements like Extinction Rebellion, Insulate Britain, and Just Stop Oil, he sees a moral urgency that traditional policy advocacy alone has failed to achieve.
Jonathon also warned of the erosion of fundamental rights in the UK, freedom of speech and protest, and how the policing of nonviolent direct action has edged dangerously close to authoritarianism. He highlighted the corrosive influence of fossil fuel money on politics and media, and why he believes only a reckoning in the financial system, particularly the insurance sector, might finally force systemic change.
Yet despite the anger, Jonathon remains hopeful. Not with shallow optimism, but with what he calls “authentic hopefulness”: the belief that through compassion, community, and radical honesty we can still shape a better, more liveable world.
This is a powerful conversation about truth, courage, and the future of climate activism. Don’t miss it.
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Music credits - Intro by Joseph McDade, and Outro music for this podcast was composed, played, and produced by my daughter Luna Juniper