Ros speaks to one of US President Barack Obama’s former speechwriters, Sarada Peri.

We all communicate multiple times a day but could we be getting better results? From a simple text or phone call, to a job interview or big presentation, the way we express ourselves and get our point across can really matter. Ros Atkins and his fascinating guests reveal the best ways to communicate and how simple changes in the way we make our point can be really effective.

In this episode, Ros and Sarada discuss finding your authentic voice, writing specifically for the spoken word, and interrogating the purpose of your communication.

Series Producer: Hannah Newton Producer: Olivia Cope Executive Producer: Zoë Edwards Mix Engineer: Jonathan Last Original Music Composed by: Tom Wrankmore Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

A Listen production for BBC Radio 4

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