Sound School Podcast

The Um, A Deep Dive

Mar 26, 2024
Talia Augustidis noticed her boyfriend 'ummed' when lying, sparking a 'radio story' deep dive. Importance of 'ums' in conversations explored, authenticity in speech emphasized. Pitch for BBC podcast transformed into intimate narrative, reflecting honesty nuances. Symbolic significance of boyfriend's arms in artwork discussed, creative process influenced by Rick Rubin.
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INSIGHT

Ums Carry Hidden Meaning

  • Filled pauses like "um" can carry meaning beyond habit and signal discomfort or a need for time.
  • Talia argues that some ums protect speakers and reveal unspoken feelings or boundaries.
ANECDOTE

Boyfriend's Ums Became An Inside Joke

  • Talia noticed her boyfriend used "um" during awkward moments and when he lied.
  • They developed a playful ritual of humming each other's ums as an inside joke.
ADVICE

Don't Cut Every Um In Editing

  • When editing audio, avoid cutting every um; overcutting makes speech feel suffocated.
  • Keep ums that reveal character or add meaningful space and remove the rest sparingly.
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