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Re-Air: The Future of AI: Superhuman Intelligence, Autonomous Coding, and the Path to AGI with Misha Laskin of ReflectionAI

Oct 22, 2025
Misha Laskin, Co-founder and CEO of ReflectionAI, shares his journey from theoretical physics to AI, highlighting insights from his time at DeepMind. He discusses the future of AI, emphasizing its potential to transform knowledge work and enhance human productivity. Misha explains the concepts of superhuman intelligence and artificial general intelligence (AGI), advocating for robust evaluation frameworks for AI success. He also dives into autonomous coding, discussing its challenges and the importance of automation in practical applications.
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ANECDOTE

From Physics To Frontier AI

  • Misha transitioned from theoretical physics to AI after seeing AlphaGo and the rise of deep learning.
  • He did a Berkeley postdoc and then joined DeepMind, where he worked on Gemini and met his co-founder.
INSIGHT

AGI Will Become Mundane Quickly

  • Misha expects AI to become deeply integrated into daily life much like personal computers and phones did.
  • He predicts productivity will jump as people keep working the same hours but accomplish many more tasks.
INSIGHT

Blueprints For Superhuman Wins

  • Existing training recipes (imitation then reinforcement) produced superhuman strategies like AlphaGo's Move 37.
  • These blueprints show how scaling compute and reward drives superhuman performance in specific domains.
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