

Forget It Jake, It's Shutdown Town
23 snips Oct 8, 2025
The government has shut down, leaving Congress in a stalemate. Brian and Matt delve into the GOP's Epstein coverup and its implications for the crisis. They explore how public opinion favors Democrats despite the typical blame game. The hosts question if forcing Republicans to renew ACA subsidies is a wise move without addressing Trump's authoritarian actions. They also discuss congressional norms, media framing, and how these factors shape perceptions around responsibility for the shutdown.
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How EpsteIn Files Shift Shutdown Tactics
- Senate Democrats avoided many message votes, which improved their shutdown position unexpectedly.
- The House's refusal to seat Adelita Grijalva alters discharge petition math and tactical options.
Trump's Maxwell Tell In The Oval Office
- Brian Beutler recounts Trump's evasive Oval Office answer about pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell and links it to a broader register of sex criminals.
- He suggests Trump's private dealings with Maxwell may influence Republican willingness to let the discharge petition proceed.
Media Norms Rewrote Congressional Reality
- Coverage norms shifted so cloture and final passage became politically conflated over time.
- Journalistic practice now treats procedural moves as substantive signals, changing how blame is assigned.