WOF 450: Freedom & Political Order w/ Patrick Deneen—Part II
Aug 12, 2024
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Patrick Deneen, a political science professor at the University of Notre Dame, dives deep into the relationship between freedom, truth, and political order. He examines how modern liberalism's individualism impacts communal values and mental well-being. The conversation critiques contemporary notions of liberty, particularly among youth valuing safety over individual expression. Deneen also reflects on historical challenges that liberalism poses to Catholic values, emphasizing local stewardship and the importance of community connections in fostering a sense of fulfillment.
The cultural shift towards subjective values among youth leads to a sense of hopelessness, highlighting the need for shared moral purpose.
Critique of liberal individualism reveals that true happiness stems from communal bonds and collective well-being rather than isolated self-pursuits.
Deep dives
The Impact of Subjective Values on Well-Being
The rise of depression and anxiety among young people is often linked to a cultural shift towards subjective values, where individuals feel that moral guidance is self-determined and lacks any objective basis. This shift has cultivated a sense of hopelessness, as many young people adopt the view that they alone define what is good or true, leading to a lack of shared moral purpose. The discussion highlights the paradox that, as people experience the emptiness of this worldview, there may be a growing realization that it is inadequate, suggesting a potential pathway to reclaim values that bind society together. Ultimately, recognizing this disconnect could lead to a renewed search for common goods that foster deeper connections and communal support.
The Search for Meaning Beyond Individualism
The conversation critiques the liberal notion of individualism as the ultimate human condition, suggesting that true happiness cannot be achieved through isolated self-pursuits. Evidence from social science indicates a decline in social bonds, friendships, and overall life satisfaction, which contradicts the ideal that unrestrained individual liberty equates to fulfillment. The dialogue draws upon Hobbes's perspective, arguing that a life solely focused on personal satisfaction is ultimately unending and leads to dissatisfaction rather than genuine happiness. Instead, it advocates for an understanding of freedom that is not just about individual rights but also encompasses the cultivation of virtue and collective well-being.
The Evolving Definition of Liberty
The podcast discusses the transformation of the concept of liberty, particularly through the lens of John Stuart Mill's ideas, which assert that freedom should be exercised as long as it does not harm others. This principle has led to a litmus test for moral legislation, where the definition of harm has evolved to encompass subjective feelings of judgment against personal identity and expression. By redefining harm in this way, society opens the door to a new form of intolerance disguised as tolerance, which can impose restrictions on differing viewpoints. This discussion underscores the complexities of modern liberalism and the challenges it presents, especially in the context of the rise of concepts like wokeism.
The Interplay Between Elites and Ordinary People
The dialogue emphasizes the disconnect between contemporary political and social elites and the everyday experiences of ordinary people, suggesting that this division exacerbates societal issues. Aristotle's idea of a mixed constitution is explored as a potential solution to bridge the gap, advocating for more meaningful interactions and relationships between social classes. This disconnect not only affects political dynamics but also impacts the Church's ability to connect with the average believer, especially in sustaining faith among working-class individuals. By promoting localized influence and community engagement, the conversation advocates for a shift in focus from elite-driven narratives to fostering connections that empower and uplift everyday people.
Today, we bring you the latter half of Bishop Barron's conversation with Patrick J. Deneen, a professor of political science at the University of Notre Dame. In this engaging discussion, the two address topics relating to freedom, truth, and the political order.
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