Rick is a 61-year-old maintenance technician at a Steel Mill in Butler, Pennsylvania. He is married with four children aged 40 to 28 and three grandchildren. He's a 35+ year union member and a lifelong Democrat who considers himself left-leaning but disenfranchised by both parties. In our conversation, we talk about the pros and cons of unions, what the politics of his steel mill are, what he thinks of Biden, and the way his world has changed in the last 20 years.

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