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The China History Podcast

S8E09 | Why Can't We Live Together

Nov 19, 2023
Explore the mutual enmity between Cao Cao and Sun Quan during the Eastern Han Dynasty. Learn about the Battle of Red Cliffs and the Chinese saying 'Changyu'. Discover the strategic choices faced by Sun Chen and the defeat of Wei in the Battle of Redcliffs. Emphasizes the need for peaceful resolutions and the concept of 'Shur Bu Liang Li'.
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  • The Chinese saying 'Sure Bu Liang Li' reflects the irreconcilable feud between enemies and implies that only one can exist, not both.
  • The story of the Battle of Red Cliffs highlights the application of the Chinese saying 'Sure Bu Liang Li' as Sun Chen chooses to join forces with Liu Bei to defeat Tao Tao.

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The Chinese saying 'Sure Bu Liang Li'

The podcast discusses the Chinese saying 'Sure Bu Liang Li', which means two forces cannot simultaneously exist. It is derived from the ancient classic texts that gave insight into the warring states period in ancient China. The saying is famously remembered for its inclusion in the records of the Three Kingdoms, a source used to produce the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, a renowned Chinese classic novel. The saying reflects the irreconcilable feud between two enemies and implies that only one can exist, not both.

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