After the Canucks suffer a Thanksgiving day loss to the Blues, Matt and Blake take a look at a start that is now bordering on concern. Outside of the goaltending, the stars have not been very visible, so is that an easier fix or more distressing? EP40's icetime is already being cut down by Adam Foote, so the guys debate whether this is the right approach for Pettersson so early in the season. The stats aren't even kind for Quinn Hughes, and the boys listen in on the already frustrated post-game comments of the captain. John Shannon stops by for his weekly visit and comments on the poll question of "concern vs patience". John gets into the roster demographic and the need for Foote to manage the lines appropriately. Then we get the finger on the pulse of the fans as Wyatt Arndt of "The Stanchies" stops by to discuss the angst that is starting already. Are Canucks fans too scarred to have patience? Wyatt also talks about his early impressions of Pettersson and gives his opinion on the possible return of the skate jersey in Vancouver. The show wraps up with a look at the Jays getting dumped by the Mariners again, a look at the Lions playoff scenarios, and the Canadian men's soccer team goes looking for its biggest win ever.

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Oct 14, 2025: Panic patrol: Canucks with 1 win in 3 games, EP40 icetime drops. Blue Jays struggling.