SmarterMarkets™ Re-engineering Tokenization Episode 1 | Josh Crumb, Founder & CEO, Abaxx Technologies + Ian Forester, Head of Product, Abaxx Technologies
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Oct 18, 2025 
Join Josh Crumb, Founder and CEO of Abaxx Technologies, who focuses on asset tokenization and digital identity, alongside Ian Forester, Head of Product, expertly blending cryptography and privacy. They dive into the crucial differences between tokenization and digitization, emphasizing the need for legal finality. Josh critiques retail-focused token models and highlights the importance of moving collateral swiftly in Asia. The duo also discusses the significance of an identity-first approach and the future of digital identity, shaping tomorrow's market infrastructure.
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Tokenization Is Digitization’s Next Step
- Tokenization is the next step of digitization, adding machine-readable information to automate reconciliation.
- Josh Crumb says tokenization lets machines reduce manual, parallel reconciliation across systems.
Collateral Mobility Drives Institutional Demand
- Institutional need centers on moving collateral faster across jurisdictions, not retail democratization.
- Josh Crumb argues freeing collateral mobility unlocks liquidity and trade, especially into Asia.
Ledger Finality ≠ Legal Finality
- Many tokenization efforts focus on ledger finality, but real assets live in law, not ledgers.
- Josh Crumb stresses multi-party reconciliation of legal claims is required for institutional adoption.