18. Bruce Bueno de Mesquita - The Invention of Power
Nov 7, 2022
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Guest Bruce Bueno de Mesquita, a political scientist, discusses his latest book on the invention of power. Topics include the impact of the Concordat of Verms on secular rulers and the church, wealth disparities in Europe, winning coalitions and power dynamics within the Catholic Church, future research recommendations, game theory models for power dynamics, the concept of a 'cut point' for democracy, and the stability of different countries and theories of stable democracies.
The signing of the Concordat of Verms in 1122 played a crucial role in shaping Western exceptionalism by changing the incentive structure for secular rulers and church leaders in relation to economic growth.
The terms of the Concordat created a game theoretic environment for the selection of bishops, leading to different power dynamics between the church and secular rulers in different regions and ultimately contributing to the prosperity and unique characteristics associated with Western civilization.
Deep dives
The Origins of Western Exceptionalism
The podcast explores the origins of Western exceptionalism, which is often attributed to factors such as prosperity, tolerance, innovativeness, and freedom. However, the speaker argues that the signing of the Concordat of Verms in 1122 played a crucial role in shaping Western exceptionalism. The Concordat established new rules for the selection of bishops, changing the incentive structure for secular rulers and church leaders in relation to economic growth. The book, 'The Invention of Power: Popes, Kings, and the Birth of the West', demonstrates that the terms of the Concordat led to a new game theoretic environment, where kings gained bargaining power with the church over the selection of bishops in wealthy dioceses. This new strategic environment ultimately contributed to the prosperity and unique characteristics associated with Western civilization.
The Power and Influence of Bishops
The podcast highlights the significant power and influence held by bishops during the time period discussed. Bishops were seen as ambassadors of the church and the kings, exerting influence over both the secular and religious domains. Their authority and decision-making abilities on local matters made them powerful figures within their dioceses. The book explores the practical authority bishops possessed and the impact of their appointments on the relationship between the church and the state.
The Game Theoretic Environment
The speaker describes how the terms of the Concordat created a game theoretic environment in relation to the selection of bishops. In wealthier dioceses, kings gained bargaining power with the church, as they had the ability to reject candidates nominated by the church and retain the income from the diocese. On the other hand, in poorer dioceses, the church had more leverage over the selection of bishops to maintain control over limited resources. This game theoretic framework shaped the dynamics and outcomes of bishop selections, leading to different power dynamics between the church and secular rulers in different regions.
Implications for Western Exceptionalism
The podcast discusses how the thesis presented in the book challenges traditional explanations of Western exceptionalism. It suggests that attributing Western exceptionalism to specific factors like Protestantism or technological advancements may overlook the pivotal role of the Concordat in establishing the foundations of Western exceptionalism. By examining the different levels of influence and power dynamics resulting from the Concordat, the book provides a fresh perspective on the origins of Western exceptionalism and highlights the importance of examining historical factors beyond common narratives.