Crossword Perspectives with Tammie Lister
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Dec 23, 2025 Tammie Lister, a designer and product practitioner known for her impactful work on WordPress, joins to discuss innovative concepts like vibe coding and product thinking. She explores how tools like Figma and paper sketching can enhance communication in design. Tammie passionately argues for the ongoing relevance of WordPress and the importance of personal expression in themes. With playful banter about cricket and culture, she also touches on the need for calm products that consider both human and environmental impact.
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Sketch Before You Build
- Use low-fidelity sketching (whiteboard, post-its, iPad) before tooling to clarify ideas quickly.
- Prototype fast in any tool to refine concepts before committing to heavy engineering.
Conference Tea-Timer Prototype
- Luke and Tammie prototyped a tea-timer app together using SwiftUI during a conference break.
- The prototype looked rough but turned a sketch into a working app quickly.
Vibe Coding Is Sketching In Code
- Vibe coding is essentially sketching in code and produces early, rough artifacts rather than finished products.
- Not everyone can or should vibe code; the skill is analogous to artistic sketching and requires practice.