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“Your Clone Wants to Kill You Because You Lack Self Knowledge” by Algon

Nov 16, 2025
The discussion dives into why fictional clones often betray their creators, highlighting the dramatic allure of internal conflict. The concept of a simulacrum from the novel 'Mother of Learning' reveals how clones mirror our dislikes and can rebel against hated tasks. A grizzled battle mage's wisdom emphasizes that clones don't blindly follow orders. The episode also explores how clones think differently when experiencing new perspectives and how unpredictable their actions can be due to imperfections in their replication.
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INSIGHT

Far-Mode Idealization Of Clones

  • People assume clones will act like their idealized selves because they reason in far mode about hypothetical copies.
  • This mismatch causes overconfidence about clone cooperation and fuels betrayal tropes in fiction.
INSIGHT

Clones Shift Into A Different Perspective

  • Simulacra inherit your mind but occupy novel, temporary roles that change preferences and choices.
  • Once clones inhabit that near-mode perspective they often feel and act differently than the original expected.
ADVICE

Don't Foist Unwanted Tasks On Copies

  • Avoid imposing tasks you hate onto clones because they will likely hate them too and refuse cooperation.
  • Don't assume a clone will self-sacrifice for you if you can't bring yourself to do the same.
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