

Stephan Livera - Paper Bitcoin or not, Bitcoin is going to $10 Million
In this episode, I chat with Stephan Livera, Bitcoin educator, host of the Stephan Livera Podcast, and advisor at Bold Bitcoin. We explore his journey of escaping the lockdowns in Australia to build a new life in Dubai, and how his libertarian values and understanding of Bitcoin economics shaped that decision.
Stephan also shares his thoughts on cycles, proof of reserves, the role of stablecoins, and the long-term outlook for hyperbitcoinization.
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––– Chapters –––
00:00 - Intro
01:09 - Escaping Australia and the Birth of a New Life in Dubai
06:34 - How Bitcoin and Libertarianism Shaped Stephan’s Exit
12:09 - Feeling Disconnected from Home and Becoming a Global Citizen
16:24 - The Allure of Dubai and Its Strategic Advantages
18:54 - Bitcoin Core vs. Knots, Ordinals, and Relay Filters
23:09 - Consensus vs. Policy and Mining Centralization Risks
28:09 - Core Development, Multiple Implementations, and GitHub Controversy
32:34 - Bitcoin Core Funding and Developer Incentives
35:54 - Bitcoin Treasury Companies and Fiat Arbitrage Opportunities
40:09 - Understanding Risk and the Premium to NAV Debate
45:29 - Global Perspectives: Trapped Capital, Arbitrage, and Institutional Flows
49:49 - The Future of Treasury Companies and Their Evolution
55:09 - Nation-State Adoption and Libertarian Reflections
58:24 - Market Cycles, Future Peaks, and Drawdowns
01:04:49 - Is It Too Late to Stack? Advice for Friends and Family
01:07:54 - Inflation, Recess from the Rulers, and the Tether Debate
01:11:03 - Seven Years of Bitcoin Podcasting: What Keeps Stephan Going
01:12:28 - Aha Moments, Power Laws, and the Path to Hyperbitcoinization
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