Novara FM: We Need a New Wikileaks w/ Stefania Maurizi
Dec 13, 2024
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Stefania Maurizi, an Italian journalist who collaborated with Wikileaks and Glenn Greenwald on the Edward Snowden revelations, discusses the profound impact of Wikileaks on governmental transparency and the significance of whistleblowers. She explores how digital technology has reshaped the landscape for exposing state secrets and critiques the hypocrisy of media outlets that profit from leaks yet oppose whistleblower protections. Maurizi also examines Julian Assange's controversial allegations and the erosion of public trust in institutions following these revelations.
The diminishing capability of WikiLeaks to publish substantial revelations since 2019 raises concerns about the future of whistleblowing platforms.
Stefania Maurizi emphasizes the term 'secret power' to illustrate the covert operations that shield state misconduct from public scrutiny and accountability.
The evolution of digital technology has shifted journalism towards open source intelligence, necessitating skilled journalists to organize and analyze vast amounts of public data effectively.
Deep dives
Julian Assange's Release and WikiLeaks' Legacy
In 2024, Julian Assange was finally released after enduring a decade of captivity, having previously been confined in the Ecuadorian embassy and later in Belmarsh prison. WikiLeaks is recognized as a critical entity in modern journalism, renowned for its massive disclosures that unveiled the hidden operations of powerful institutions, notably the military-industrial complex. However, since 2019, WikiLeaks' ability to publish similar extensive revelations has diminished, raising concerns about whether other platforms or sources can fill this gap. The conversation underscores the essential role of whistleblowers, like Chelsea Manning, in providing critical information, along with the collaborative efforts of journalists and media organizations that translated raw leaks into impactful stories.
The Concept of Secret Power
Stefania Marizzi discusses the term 'secret power,' which refers to the covert operations and decision-making processes of influential entities that operate beyond public scrutiny and democratic accountability. This includes the military, defense industry, intelligence agencies, and increasingly, major tech companies that assist in warfare, making it difficult for the average citizen to grasp the true extent of these powers. Marizzi emphasizes that state secrecy often serves to protect state misconduct rather than the safety of its citizens, often shielding officials from accountability for war crimes. The implications of this hidden power structure highlight the necessity of transparency and public understanding in re-establishing democratic control.
WikiLeaks and the Fight Against Secrecy
Before WikiLeaks, the public perception was that combating state secrecy was nearly futile, as access to critical information seemed nearly impossible. However, WikiLeaks revolutionized this landscape by effectively offering unprecedented access to numerous classified documents and shedding light on state operations. Marizzi argues that this revelation not only informed the public but drew attention to how government decisions fundamentally impact citizens' lives. The case of Italy's political violence history exemplifies this, as victims' families sought transparency regarding unresolved crimes that remained hidden until WikiLeaks provided access to relevant documentation.
Limitations of the Freedom of Information Act
While the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) serves as a vital tool for journalists seeking transparency, it often falls short in accessing top-secret documents relevant to major corruption or war crimes. Many critical pieces of information that WikiLeaks revealed would not have been accessible through FOIA requests, as they involve stringent security classifications. Marizzi cites the Collateral Murder video as an example; despite its public significance and the subsequent inquiries by Reuters, attempts to obtain the footage through FOIA failed. This highlights the necessity of whistleblowers and independent journalistic platforms to unveil truths that governmental transparency mechanisms may not adequately address.
The Rise of Open Source Intelligence
As digital technology has evolved, the landscape of journalism has shifted towards open source intelligence, where vast amounts of information are available for public scrutiny thanks to personal devices and citizen reporting. However, the unorganized nature of this data often lacks coherent narratives, requiring skilled journalists to synthesize and analyze the information effectively. While poignant cases, like recent events in Gaza, underline the potential for this new approach, it remains to be seen whether similar whistleblowers as seen with WikiLeaks will emerge in contemporary conflicts. Marizzi expresses hope that courageous individuals will continue to step forward despite the significant risks, maintaining the legacy of whistleblowing and its importance in exposing the truth.
In the 2010s, we found out that we were all being watched. A series of leaks, from Wikileaks and others, revealed that our governments were conducting mass surveillance operations on their own populations. But what were the longer term consequences of those leaks? And why hasn’t something of equivalent size stepped in to replace Wikileaks since?
Stefania Maurizi is a journalist who worked with Wikileaks and Glenn Greenwald on the Edward Snowden revelations. She’s also the author of Secret Power: Wikileaks and Its Enemies.
She sat down with Richard Hames to explain how Wikileaks achieved so much, how the state tried to destroy them, and how they fought back and won.