In an attempt to prove to Tom that science is a real thing, this week TommyInnit and Jack Manifold are joined by Henry and Gregor from Veritasium, the minds behind some of YouTube’s most fascinating science videos. From dynamite and Nobel Prizes to space, aliens, and free will, this episode dives deep into the questions that keep you up at night.

The boys discuss:
• Only just surviving Valencia’s infamous tomato festival
• The science of time, perception, and the paradox of time travel
• Whether aliens could wipe us out like insects
• Depression, dopamine, and why evolution made us sad
• Hacking, phone spying & 2FA vulnerabilities
• What happens when we die? Reincarnation, free will, or nothing at all?

Also: Ikea mishaps, shoplifting confessions, and Tom trying to prove that science is boring.

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Written & presented by: Tom Simons & Jack Manifold
Executive producer: Mirren Mace
Directed by: Mirren Mace
Producer: Russell Noon
Production coordinator: Tori Sheard
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Editor: Owen Rogers
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Set design: Mirren Mace

This podcast episode was recorded on 09/09/2025

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