Lidia Oshlyansky, CPO at Gillian and former leader at Spotify and Google, shares her insights on essential skills that withstand tech shifts. She emphasizes the importance of foundational skills like negotiation and systems thinking over transient tools. Lidia discusses the evolution of job roles in tech and advocates for curiosity-driven adaptability. She also addresses the challenges tech leaders face and provides tactical advice for continuous learning, urging a shift from 'future-proofing' to 'curiosity-proofing' careers in a rapidly changing landscape.
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Early Webmaster Days
Leah Darin and Lidia Oshlyansky reminisce about their early careers as "webmasters."
They discuss the evolution of roles and how they handled design, coding, and managing executive expectations.
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Evolution of Information Architecture
Job titles and descriptions evolve, but core tasks remain.
Information architecture, crucial in early web design, is now integrated into modern UX design roles.
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Legacy Systems
Systems like AS400, using discontinued coding languages, still exist.
Banks and institutions employ specialists to maintain them, showcasing how older tech persists.
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Lidia Oshlyansk reflects on navigating decades of tech evolution - from webmaster days to AI - and shares tactical advice for product operatives. Drawing parallels between today’s AI boom and past shifts (web/mobile revolutions), we talk about transferable skills (negotiation, systems thinking) over fleeting tools, debunks "future-proofing," and advocates curiosity-driven adaptability.
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01:58 - Lidia’s unconventional path: From "business architect" to CPO roles at Spotify/Google
04:07 - Case Study: How "information architects" evolved into modern UX strategists
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