Lyndsey Stonebridge and Lucas Johnson — On Love, Politics, and Violence (Channeling Hannah Arendt)
May 23, 2024
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Lyndsey Stonebridge, a political thinker, and writer, discuss the intersections of love, politics, and violence, channeling Hannah Arendt. They explore loneliness's impact on democracy, differentiate facts from truth, and power from violence. The conversation offers insightful wisdom for navigating today's political climate and emphasizes the importance of generative shared deliberations.
Loneliness can coerce abandonment of democracy, highlighting its crucial role in governance.
Recognizing vulnerability fosters authentic human engagement, promoting a shift from violent coercion to consent-based power.
Preserving love within the private sphere safeguards personal autonomy, cautioning against distortion of governance with populist emotions.
Deep dives
Natality and New Beginnings: Embracing Frailty Amid Human Condition
Hannah Arendt's concept of natality, emphasizing new beginnings, challenges the conflation of work and labor in today's consumer culture. She highlights the frailty of the human condition, advocating for a recognition of vulnerability as a starting point for authentic human engagement. Arendt distinguishes between power and violence, asserting that true political power comes from consent among people, marking a shift away from violent coercion as a means of governance.
Loneliness, Shared Facts, and the Fragility of Democracy
Arendt delves into the perils of modern loneliness, indicating how it stifles genuine solitude where self-discovery and critical thought occur. She underscores the importance of distinguishing between facts and truth, warning against the isolation created by varied realities. Through her lens, shared facts are essential for democracy, as differing narratives and loneliness breed division and detachment from shared humanity.
Politics as Shared Life and Love's Role in the Public Sphere
Arendt rejects politics founded solely on love, cautioning against its potential to distort governance with populist emotions. Instead, she asserts the necessity of safeguarding love within the private sphere to preserve personal autonomy. Viewing politics as shared life, she underscores the significance of maintaining intimate relationships distinct from political influence, while acknowledging the profound impact of love on human interactions and societal cohesion.
The Importance of Love in Mirroring and Magnifying Light
Love, whether in friendships, family, or romance, involves the essential work of reflecting and amplifying each other's inner light. This mutual support becomes life-saving in challenging times when our own light is obscured. By being clear-eyed and loving, we play the crucial role of reflecting light back to others, fostering moments of shared brilliance.
Forgiveness, Promises, and Community in Political Action
Forgiveness and promises are highlighted as key elements in building a functional political community. Forgiveness, viewed as an act of collective pluralism, democratically enables community healing. Promises, as a memory of the will, emphasize the importance of commitment without the illusion of absolute control. This approach to political action encourages risk-taking and development of cultures of forgiveness, essential for navigating uncertainties and fostering authentic community bonds.
Here is a stunning sentence for you, written by Lyndsey Stonebridge, our guest this hour, channeling the 20th-century political thinker and journalist Hannah Arendt: "Loneliness is the bully that coerces us into giving up on democracy." This conversation is a kind of guide to generative shared deliberations we might be having with each other and ourselves in this intensely fraught global political moment: on the human underlay that gives democracy its vigor or threatens to undo it; on the difference between facts and truth — and on the difference between violence and power. Krista interviewed Lyndsey once before, in 2017, after Hannah Arendt's classic work, The Origins of Totalitarianism, had become a belated runaway bestseller. Now Lyndsey has published her own wonderful book offering her and Arendt's full prescient wisdom for this time. What emerges is elevating and exhilaratingly thoughtful — while also brimming with helpful, practicable words and ideas. We have, in Lyndsey's phrase, "un-homed" ourselves. And yet we are always defined by our capacity to give birth to something new — and so to partake again and again in the deepest meaning of freedom.
Hannah Arendt's other epic books include The Human Condition, and Eichmann in Jerusalem, in which she famously coined the phrase "the banality of evil." She was born a German Jew in 1906, fled Nazi Germany and spent many years as a stateless person, and died an American citizen in 1975. This conversation with Lyndsey Stonebridge happened in January 2024, as part of a gathering of visionaries, activists, and creatives across many fields. Krista interviewed her alongside Lucas Johnson, a former leader of the International Fellowship of Reconciliation who now leads our social healing initiatives at The On Being Project.
Lucas Johnson is Executive Vice President of Public Life & Social Healing at The On Being Project. He was previously a leader of the International Fellowship of Reconciliation, the world’s oldest interfaith peace organization.
Note: A previous version of this audio mistakenly attributed a quote to James Baldwin. The author of the quote is Maria Popova, creator of The Marginalian, and appears in an essay she wrote discussing Baldwin’s work.
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