Life is messy, but we are sanctified through it. Today, Dave "How are you" VanVickle and I catch up on a bunch of random topics and the chaos in our lives. We chat about Dave's wife's cancer treatment, suffering at the parish, embracing the cross, and ideas for a discipleship think tank!

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When life gets messy, there is incredible grace in not asking “why?” and just letting God carry you.

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When Life Gets Messy