
William Ramsey Investigates 525: Peering Into Darkness with Sharon and Derek Gilbert on the Grassy Knoll with Vyz. From the Vyzygoth Archives, Volume 4.
Nov 21, 2025
Sharon Gilbert, a co-host of PID Radio and an expert on occult history, joins her husband Derek for a deep dive into symbolic language and political phrases. They discuss the historical roots of Novus Ordo Seclorum, and how it ties to ancient myths. The conversation explores the influence of Masonic symbols in Washington, D.C., and the spiritual dimensions of global events. They also ponder the notion of America’s purpose within a hidden agenda, framing modern governments as religious systems that may serve greater spiritual narratives.
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New Order Phrase Has Classical Roots
- 'Novus Ordo Seclorum' on the Great Seal echoes Virgil's poem about a 'new order of the ages' and a golden dawn.
- Derek Gilbert connects that classical imagery to modern political language and symbolic signaling by insiders.
Patriotic Language Masks Deeper Symbolism
- George W. Bush's phrase 'author of Liberty' in his inaugural echoes civic-religious language not found in Scripture.
- Sharon Gilbert highlights how patriotic hymns and political rhetoric can carry occult or Gnostic undertones.
Salute Tradition Traces Unexpected Routes
- The original Pledge of Allegiance used a Roman/Nazi-style salute before it was abandoned after WWII.
- The guests trace that gesture's later adoption by Middle Eastern militant groups to historical ties with European operatives.



