Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar 10/21/25: Josh Shapiro Pressed On AIPAC, Epstein Prosecutor Dined At His House, WH Blows Up On Ukraine Question, AI Bubble
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Oct 21, 2025 
David Dayen, the Executive Editor at The American Prospect and a policy reporter, dives into the intriguing dynamics of tech infrastructure and the potential AI bubble. He discusses the recent AWS outage, highlighting risks in centralized cloud systems. Dayen breaks down vendor financing and how circular investments are fueling AI ventures, while drawing parallels to the 90s dot-com bubble. He also weighs in on the dire consequences we might face if this new tech bubble bursts, including possible bailouts and political fallout.
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Epstein Dined With His Former Prosecutor
- House Oversight files show Matthew Menchel, a prosecutor tied to Epstein's plea deal, dined with Jeffrey Epstein years after the deal.
- Saagar and Ryan call that relationship ethically shocking and a conflict of interest.
Leon Black's Persistent Payments To Epstein
- Leon Black paid Jeffrey Epstein tens of millions and maintained a decades-long friendship despite Epstein's crimes.
- The hosts highlight leaked emails showing Epstein pressured Black for more money and Black continued payments.
Acosta Defends The Sweetheart Deal
- Alex Acosta defends the Epstein non-prosecution deal by calling a trial a 'crapshoot' and blaming victims' credibility.
- The hosts note DOJ review disagreed and called the office's actions improper.