Jacobin Radio: Return of the Trumpian Right w/ Dylan Riley
Nov 18, 2024
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Dylan Riley, a sociology professor at UC Berkeley and expert on fascism, dives into the intricacies of Trump’s political style and his impact on democracy. He discusses the alarming Project 2025 and the reactionary gender politics within the MAGA movement. Riley characterizes Trump as a charismatic misfit rather than a conventional fascist. The conversation also touches on the January 6th insurrection, the complexities of loyalty within governance, and parallels with global far-right movements, offering a critical lens on modern political dynamics.
Trump's politics encompass a chaotic governing style and a reactionary view of gender, reflecting broader discontent among working-class voters.
The Project 2025 agenda highlights a troubling attempt to dismantle democratic institutions, tying authoritarianism with an idealized vision of America.
Deep dives
The Nature of Trump's Political Threat
Trump has been characterized by critics as a fascist, representing a significant threat to democracy. His admiration for authoritarian regimes, chaotic governing style, and construction of a personality cult contribute to this perception. Support among working-class voters adds complexity, highlighting an apparent contradiction; Trump is perceived as anti-worker despite securing their votes. While discussions about Trump's classification as a fascist may be politically useful, the primary concern remains the serious threats his administration poses to democratic principles.
Implications of Project 2025
Project 2025 outlines Trump's vision for an emergency regime aimed at dismantling the administrative state and purportedly restoring sovereignty to the 'true' American populace. This project highlights a theoretical framework suggesting a return to an idealized America, tying authoritarianism with democratic rhetoric. Trump's plans include unprecedented measures to reshape governance, which may unsettle existing democratic institutions and norms. The project’s anti-democratic tendencies raise fears about how it could undermine civil liberties and institutional checks.
Rising Reactionary Gender Politics
Trump's rise is closely tied to the reactionary gender politics of the MAGA movement, responding to perceived threats from women's advancements and changing family dynamics. Economic disparities, particularly the declining earnings of non-college-educated men, fuel discontent and contribute to the movement's appeal. This dissatisfaction is exploited by portraying a traditional family model as being undermined by progressive changes in society. Understanding and addressing these gender dynamics is crucial for countering the deeply ingrained reactionary ideology present within Trumpism.
Global Context of Far-Right Movements
The rise of Trump cannot be understood in isolation as it reflects a broader global trend characterized by the emergence of far-right movements in various countries. Similar to Trump, leaders around the world exploit economic instability and social grievances to gain support from disenchanted voters. Such movements share common elements, including a combination of nationalist and authoritarian rhetoric, often including appeals to traditional values. Recognizing these patterns is crucial to counteracting the threat posed by authoritarianism on a global scale.
Suzi talks to UC Berkeley sociologist Dylan Riley, who has written a great deal about fascism and far right politics. The US has just elected to the Presidency a man who represents a dire threat to democracy and constitutional rule as we know it. We get Dylan’s understanding of the specificity of Trump’s politics, the basis of his support, and the fascistic measures favored by people in and around his party, including the frightening Project 2025. Central to MAGA is a reactionary view of gender, which sees women’s advances happening at the expense of men and their traditional family role. Dylan sees Trump as more of a patrimonial misfit, a charismatic leader who rules more incoherently than a consistent fascist. We also ask how Trump fits in with analogous movements of the far right around the world.
Jacobin Radio with Suzi Weissman features conversations with leading thinkers and activists, with a focus on labor, the economy, and protest movements.
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