The Brian Lehrer Show

The U.N. Talks Artificial Intelligence

Sep 30, 2025
Vilas Dhar, president of the Patrick J. McGovern Foundation and a key U.N. advisor on AI, dives into the U.N.'s efforts to tackle the governance of artificial intelligence. He discusses two newly established global institutions aimed at addressing AI's risks and benefits. Dhar advocates for a hopeful governance approach that prioritizes public good and human oversight, while exploring community engagement and ethical principles. He also touches on the environmental impact of AI and the necessity for transparency and regulation.
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INSIGHT

Third Path Beyond Hype And Horror

  • Public conversation about AI swings between unfounded hype and horror without giving a clear path forward.
  • Vilas Dhar proposes a third, hopeful path focused on building public confidence and governance.
INSIGHT

Governance Can Prevent Catastrophe

  • Acknowledging existential risk is valid but we should also focus on present governance choices.
  • Dhar argues that with proper governance we can "if we govern it, we thrive."
ANECDOTE

Local Collaboration Example In New York

  • Dhar cites local efforts like the NYAI Exchange to build community-driven responsible AI practices.
  • He illustrates how academics, policymakers, and companies can collaborate on human-centered deployment.
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