After a fruitful yet exhausting year, the Perrys talk about the future of the podcast and their public ministry. They discuss whether or not they did too much, what they’ve learned about rhythms of rest, how God has used success and scrutiny to make them more like Jesus, and the gifts and dangers of social media.

While some ministry will still continue at the start of the new year, new episodes of With The Perrys won’t be released until Summer 2025.

In the meantime, be sure you’re subscribed to the newsletter for occasional updates from Jackie and Preston.

Episode resources:

John Piper’s sermon about what God allows: “Seven Ways God Reigns Over Evil”

The Perrys’ 2024 recap:

Jackie’s Bible study, Ephesians: A Study of Faith and Practice, with Lifeway

Preston’s first book, How to Tell the Truth: The Story of How God Saved Me to Win Hearts—Not Just Arguments

The 16-city With The Perrys podcast tour

Acts 242 Conference

Jackie’s EP, “Practice,” with Reach Records

Preston’s Bible study, Everyday Evangelism - Bible Study Book with Video Access: Pursuing Hearts, Not Arguments, with Lifeway

The ramp-up of BOLD Apparel

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Corporate “team building” goes wrong.