85: Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks, pt. 1 - Thales, Anaximander, Heraclitus
Feb 26, 2024
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Explore the enigmatic world of early Greek philosophers like Thales, Anaximander, and Heraclitus. Discover how their holistic views laid the groundwork for modern thought, contrasting sharply with later thinkers like Socrates and Plato. Delve into the idea of water as the fundamental substance and Heraclitus's playful take on existence, where life is seen as a game. Uncover how these ancient insights challenge conventional morality and reveal the subjective nature of perception, fundamentally shaping our understanding of reality.
Nietzsche highlights the early Greek philosophers as solitary thinkers who pursued genuine knowledge beyond conventional academic boundaries.
He argues that philosophy is an artistic expression of existence, reflecting the philosopher's subjective experiences rather than merely empirical observations.
Nietzsche critiques modern philosophy for lacking the boldness and depth of pre-Platonic thinkers, calling for a return to profound inquiry.
Deep dives
The Pioneers of Greek Philosophy
Ancient Greek philosophers such as Thales, Anaximander, Heraclitus, Parmenides, and Socrates represent a unique intellectual tradition characterized by their commitment to solitary thinking and the pursuit of knowledge without conventional constraints. These figures are depicted as integral and self-sufficient, each embodying singular ideas derived from direct contemplation of the world around them. Nietzsche highlights their philosophical explorations as a counter to the norms of modern society, emphasizing that these thinkers approached philosophy not as a profession but as a dedication to understanding existence itself. This foundational period of philosophy laid the groundwork for Nietzsche's later concepts, as the inquiries made by these early philosophers served as inspiration for his own philosophical journey and critique of contemporary thought.
Philosophy as an Artistic Expression
Nietzsche presents the early Greek philosophers as artists who create metaphysical representations of existence, rather than mere scientists or mythmakers. He argues that philosophy is a creative act that transcends strict rationality and empirical observation, reflecting the intrinsic drive of these thinkers to express a unified vision of reality. This artistic approach is exemplified in Thales' assertion that 'everything is water,' a claim that, while metaphysical, suggests an underlying unity in diversity. Ultimately, Nietzsche reframes philosophy as a form of art that interprets existence through the subjective experiences of the philosopher, with each inquiry reflecting the artist's unique perspective and emotional resonance with the world.
The Duality of Being and Becoming
Heraclitus fundamentally challenges the static notion of being prevalent in earlier philosophical thought by positing that only becoming is real. He argues against dualistic ideas of existence by asserting that change is the essence of reality, famously stating that one cannot step into the same river twice. This perspective positions the world as an eternal flow of transformation, where permanence is an illusion. Nietzsche emphasizes Heraclitus's belief that conflict and strife are inherent to existence, framing them as essential components of the world's dynamic nature rather than a curse, thus urging a reassessment of how humanity perceives the continuity of life and existence.
Anaximander's Metaphysical Inquiry
Anaximander progresses from Thales' initial ideas by introducing the concept of the 'Apeiron' as the unlimited origin of all things, marking a significant shift toward metaphysical inquiry. He highlights the transience of existence and suggests that everything that comes into being eventually perishes, framing this reality as a moral issue tied to the inherent injustices of existence. This introduces a moralistic element into philosophical discourse, wherein the act of existing is seen as a form of wrongdoing. Nietzsche critiques this worldview for casting a pall of pessimism over Greek philosophy, as it struggles to reconcile the perpetual cycle of creation and annihilation with the concept of a meaningful existence.
The Impact of Modernity on Philosophy
Nietzsche reflects on the difficulties faced by philosophy in the modern world, arguing that contemporary thought often sidelined the bold inquiries and single-mindedness of pre-Platonic thinkers. He laments the current state of philosophy, suggesting it has become regulated and diluted, ceasing to challenge or probe the depths of existence in the way early Greek philosophers did. The overarching societal zeitgeist, influenced by political and cultural constraints, stifles genuine philosophical exploration, reducing it to mere academic discourse devoid of real engagement with life’s fundamental questions. Despite this, Nietzsche's engagement with these early figures serves as an act of resistance against such trends, urging a return to the core values of philosophical inquiry that prioritize profound understanding over popular approval.
Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks is one of the more obscure texts in Friedrich Nietzsche’s corpus. There are many good reasons for this: it is unfinished, and ends abruptly; it was never published; and it concerns subject matter that is not as immediately accessible as Nietzsche’s more popular writings. You will not find his major concepts in this work – such as the will to power, or the critique of metaphysics - except insofar as those
ideas appear in the background, inchoate, unnamed… not yet fully formed. In Nietzsche’s interpretation of the Pre-Platonic philosophers of Ancient Greece, we find the starting place for his later philosophical career. The inspiration for many of those great ideas, can arguably be found in his exegesis of these extraordinary figures from the Hellenic world, from the 6th to the 4th century BC.
In today's episode, I'll introduce the text, then we'll cover the first three figures who I've classed as "the first cosmologists": Thales, Anaximander, and Heraclitus. While I'm mostly sticking to the text of the essay, I fill in some details using Nietzsche's lectures on the Pre-Platonics, on which this essay was based.
Episode art: photo of the Temple of Poseidon
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