
Fintech Takes Fintech Takes x Fundbox presents Engineering the SMB Capital Stack Episode 3: Data & Underwriting with Bernardo Martinez (SoFi)
Nov 25, 2025
Bernardo Martinez, a seasoned small business lending executive at SoFi, dives into the complexities of SMB underwriting. He discusses how outdated operations and data gaps have hindered progress but highlights how digitization is transforming the landscape. The conversation explores the benefits of integrating various transaction data for a comprehensive cash-flow picture, and he touches on the role of non-financial signals and generative AI in enhancing lending strategies. Ultimately, Bernardo emphasizes the need for banks to evolve into supportive CFO partners for SMBs.
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Digitization Unlocks SMB Underwriting
- Small businesses historically lacked digitization, which limited visible cash-flow and underwriting accuracy.
- Bernardo says rising digitization post-COVID creates a new opportunity to underwrite SMBs more confidently.
From Averages To Daily Cash-Flow Signals
- Transactional granularity improved from average balances to daily-level and payment-level views that reveal customer counts and patterns.
- Bernardo notes deeper feeds let lenders build a richer 360° picture and make decisions with more confidence.
Sum-of-Parts Beats Single Data Streams
- No single data source is decisive; combined signals (banking, payments, ledger) create a stronger view of business health.
- Bernardo emphasizes the sum of parts reveals concentration, repeat customers, and operational quality.
