Stephen Sackur interviews Maria Butina, a member of the State Duma for Putin's United Russia party, discussing the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, NATO's involvement, Russia's global dependencies on China and Iran, and the intricate dynamics of international relations.
The war in Ukraine tests Russia's staying power and strategic goals amidst high casualties and Nato's commitment.
Russia defends its actions in the conflict as defensive and justifiable, emphasizing mutual partnerships for economic stability.
Deep dives
Maria Butina's Unusual Story and Advocacy for Putin
Maria Butina, a member of the Russian Duma and former American prisoner, retained from her time advocating gun rights in the U.S. to fiercely support President Putin in Russia's conflict with Ukraine. Despite her confidence in the mission's success, she admits the complexities of achieving strategic and tactical goals, highlighting the divisive involvement of various countries like NATO. Her defense of Putin's actions signifies Russian resistance to external pressures.
Impact of Conflict on Russian Forces and Civilian Support
The staggering losses of Russian military personnel in the conflict with Ukraine raise concerns about the sustainability of the war effort. Contrary to external reports, Butina disputes casualty figures and emphasizes the sacrifice of Russian families for the nation's mission. She portrays Russia's actions as defensive and justifiable, aiming to counter Western narratives and assert Russia's perspective on the conflict.
Russia's Relations with China and Geopolitical Alliances
Discussions on Russia's geopolitical landscape delve into its ties with China for trade and military supplies, defended by Butina as mutual dependence between trading partners for economic stability. She highlights alliances through BRICS as indicators of Russia's global partnerships. Despite past U.S.-Russia relations, she maintains a pragmatic view on future strategies regarding America under different administrations.
Stephen Sackur speaks to Maria Butina, member of the State Duma for President Putin’s United Russia party. The war in Ukraine now hinges on strength of will and staying power: the fighting is attritional, the bloodshed horrendous, and Nato has just reaffirmed its commitment to Kyiv. Two and a half years after the invasion, is time really on Russia’s side?
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