Recorded November 9th, 2021

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We welcome back Jack Brewer to the show. We speak to Jack about his latest book "Wayward Sons: NICAP and the IC". NICAP was a UFO research organization that lasted from the 1950s to the 1970s and was long expected to be infiltrated by the Intelligence Community. Jack lays out how from the beginning how NICAP was started by individuals who had intelligence ties. We also delve into the parallels Jack sees between how NICAP operated and what is going on in the UFO research and disclosure movements currently.

You can check out Jack's excellent blog at:

http://ufotrail.blogspot.com/