We have made our pod a sunless place! But it is full of great discussion on the latest episode of 'Andor,' including some of the best 'Star Wars' content to ever exist! (09:55). Later, Ben Lindbergh joins to discuss some of the best speeches in 'Star Wars' history, and what makes a great speech (90:26). All before an illuminating chat with episode director Toby Haynes about this magnificent episode of television (02:07:31).

If you would like to email Mal and Joanna about the show, you can reach them at hobbitsanddragons@gmail.com.Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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'Andor' Episode 10 Deep Dive, Plus Toby Haynes