Why do so few politicians speak out against the oppression of the Palestinian people? And why do so many find it so difficult to speak out against straightforward violations of international law - let alone war crimes - when the Israeli state is responsible?
My brilliant guest Chris Doyle knows more than most: he's Director of the Council for Arab British Understanding, and his job involves taking politicians of all parties to the Occupied Territories.
I had my hands over my face at one point. You'll hear why.
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