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In this episode, Ellen discusses the challenges of communicating and embracing the Church's teachings on Natural Family Planning (NFP) and marital intimacy. She reflects on a personal conversation with a family member who acknowledged that NFP is a 'hard sell.' Ellen delves into the difficulties of living out these teachings, the role of suffering in the Christian life, and how enduring these challenges can ultimately lead to spiritual growth and redemption. She encourages listeners to remain steadfast in their faith and commitments, despite the inherent struggles.

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