

Platform Engineering is not just a trend and why Terraform is not dead with Artem Lajko
Aug 11, 2025
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Did you know that the average salary for a Platform Engineer is 42.5% more than a DevOps engineer? But why is that?
We sat down with Artem Lajko, CNCF Kubestronaut and Ambassador as well as Author of the book Implementing GitOps with Kubernetes. We dive into the role of a platform engineer, the common pitfalls in implementing IDPs and why Backstage and AI won't solve all your problems. And we touch upon a topic hot off the press around Terraform: Its not dead!
Links we discussed
Artem's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lajko/
Talk slides from Cloud Land: https://lajko10-my.sharepoint.com/personal/artem_lajko_dev/_layouts/15/onedrive.aspx?id=%2Fpersonal%2Fartem%5Flajko%5Fdev%2FDocuments%2FAttachments%2Fcloud%20land%2D2025%5F%2Epdf&parent=%2Fpersonal%2Fartem%5Flajko%5Fdev%2FDocuments%2FAttachments&ga=1
State of Platform Engineering Report: https://platformengineering.org/reports/state-of-platform-engineering-vol-3
Upjet GitHub Project: https://github.com/crossplane/upjet
We sat down with Artem Lajko, CNCF Kubestronaut and Ambassador as well as Author of the book Implementing GitOps with Kubernetes. We dive into the role of a platform engineer, the common pitfalls in implementing IDPs and why Backstage and AI won't solve all your problems. And we touch upon a topic hot off the press around Terraform: Its not dead!
Links we discussed
Artem's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lajko/
Talk slides from Cloud Land: https://lajko10-my.sharepoint.com/personal/artem_lajko_dev/_layouts/15/onedrive.aspx?id=%2Fpersonal%2Fartem%5Flajko%5Fdev%2FDocuments%2FAttachments%2Fcloud%20land%2D2025%5F%2Epdf&parent=%2Fpersonal%2Fartem%5Flajko%5Fdev%2FDocuments%2FAttachments&ga=1
State of Platform Engineering Report: https://platformengineering.org/reports/state-of-platform-engineering-vol-3
Upjet GitHub Project: https://github.com/crossplane/upjet