Taylor Adkins, @CNoumena, @YAgamben - Wicked Lyotard Pt 1
Dec 6, 2020
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Taylor Adkins, a knowledgeable individual on Jean Francois Lyotard's Libidinal Economy (1974), discusses various topics including Leotard's 'Evil Book' and its connection to Anti-Oedipus, desire and representation, challenging Victorian hypocrisy, the signifiers of makeup and desire, the concept of the Bar in dis intensification, Nick Land's anthropocentric vision, Freud's topological interventions, Lyotard's views on language games and topology, double articulation and capitalism, introducing numina and idealism, the current state of theory, and interactions and coordination on social media.
The body serves as a site for the circulation of intensities and signification, inscribing desire on the skin.
Lack is productive, driving individuals towards creation and substitution, challenging societal norms surrounding desire.
Language and traditional structures are limited in capturing the intensity and complexity of desire, highlighting the role of signification and substitution.
The bar and the Mobius strip symbolize desire and representation, emphasizing their interconnectedness and challenging dichotomies.
Conceptual limitations impact self-understanding, emphasizing the interplay between the Bard subject and the concept of the bar.
Dispositif and the libidinal band are complex concepts related to power dynamics and representation, involving new libinal operators.
Deep dives
Inscribing Desire on the Skin
The podcast episode delves into the idea of inscribing desire on the skin, exploring how the body serves as a site for the circulation of intensities and signification. It references the works of Freud and Lacan, highlighting the connection between desire, representation, and the senses. The concept of the libidinal band is introduced, highlighting the interplay between individual desire and machinic processes. It questions societal norms and conventions surrounding sexual desire and the construction of identity.
The Intrinsic Vitality of Desire
The episode discusses the vitalistic nature of desire and how it connects to the circulation of intensities. It explores the idea that lack is productive, driving individuals towards creation and substitution. The episode draws on the works of Deluis and Guattari, highlighting their emphasis on desire as a primary element and critique of representation. It challenges traditional notions of normality and exposes the hypocrisy surrounding socially constructed sexual norms.
The Relationship Between Representation and Desire
The podcast delves into the tension between representation and desire, emphasizing the limits of language and the insufficiency of signifiers in capturing the complexity of desire. It discusses the role of signification and substitution in the expression of desire, questioning the ability of traditional structures to encompass its intensity. The concept of the libidinal economy is explored, underscoring the interconnectedness of desire, representation, and capitalist ideology.
The Bar and the Mobius Strip
The episode examines the relationship between the bar and the Mobius strip as metaphors for desire and representation. It explores how the bar functions as an operator, slowing down the libidinal band and allowing the designation and signification of drives and intensities. The Mobius strip symbolizes the interplay between the internal and external, and the fluidity of desire. It emphasizes the interconnectedness of desire and systemic structures, challenging the dichotomy between inside and outside.
The Conceptual Limitations of Self Understanding
The podcast episode explores the concept of conceptual limitations and their impact on self understanding. It discusses how individuals have a potentiality of being anything, but the need to conceptualize limits this potential. The limitation serves as both a conceptual and material boundary within the understanding of oneself and the volume of the body. The episode raises questions about the interplay between the Bard subject in Lacan and the concept of the bar, emphasizing the importance of understanding the connection between these ideas. It also touches on the danger of becoming too immersed in conceptual limitations and the need to think beyond them.
Understanding Dispositif and Libinal Band
The podcast delves into the concepts of Dispositif and the libinal band. Dispositif is discussed as a disposition to invest in cathexis and refers to the production of new libinal operators. The libinal band is compared to the primary process of the psychical apparatus, highlighting its lack of inside and outside. The band allows the expression of what is excluded by representational thinking and encourages the affirmation of differences and singularities. The episode explores the complexities of Dispositif and the libinal band, emphasizing their relation to power dynamics and the nature of representation.
The Mobius Strip and Conceptual Limitations
The podcast episode explores the concept of the Mobius strip and its connection to conceptual limitations. The Mobius strip is described as a surface with a single curve that transposes in a three-dimensional space, creating a sense of one-sidedness. The strip is linked to the limitations of conceptualizing reality and the challenges of comprehending the unknown. The episode also references the distinction between conceptual limitation and interiority, highlighting the difficulty in fully understanding the Mobius strip and its relationship to the body without organs. The strip's interplay with the bar and the intensity of conceptualization is also discussed.
The Relationship Between Schizophrenia and Revolution
The podcast episode touches on the association between schizophrenia and revolution. It addresses the misunderstanding of Deleuze and Guattari's ideas in relation to schizophrenia as revolutionary. The episode examines how the concept of schizophrenia as a revolutionary force was often misinterpreted by critics, leading to a misconception about their intentions. It explores the tension between clinical and theoretical understanding of schizophrenia and the resistance experienced within psychoanalytic categories. The episode also reflects on the challenges of defining and interpreting concepts such as schizophrenia and revolution, drawing connections to the works of Freud and Jung.
The virtualization of the body and libidinal economy
The episode discusses the concept of virtualization of the body and its implications for understanding the libidinal economy. It explores how the body can be extended metaphorically into new virtual spaces, challenging traditional views of the libidinal economy. The virtualization of life, including work life, is highlighted as a major shift in how we perceive and experience the libidinal economy. The episode emphasizes the potency and significance of this virtualization process.
Twitter as a capitalist market space and the role of cloud
The discussion delves into the idea of Twitter as a capitalist market space and the role of cloud accumulation within this context. Cloud accumulation is compared to the accumulation of capital, functioning as a currency of engagement and followers. The positive feedback loop of cloud accumulation is highlighted, where having more cloud makes it easier to gain more followers and engagement. The episode also explores the power and influence of algorithms on Twitter, which function as the user interface of capitalism.
The virtualization and reification of desire on Twitter
The episode explores the virtualization and reification of desires on Twitter and how it relates to the libidinal economy. The concept of cloud, as a manifestation of the libidinal economy, is discussed. It is argued that cloud is not a new phenomenon but a virtual expression of pre-existing libidinal energies. The episode examines the relationship between posting on Twitter and the libidinal economy, highlighting how Twitter's system works to capture and commodify desires, leading to a virtualized and reified experience of the libidinal economy.
Part 1 of a series of discussions with Taylor Adkins, @CNoumena, and @YAgamben on Jean Francois Lyotard's Libidinal Economy (1974). Lyotard referred to it as his evil book, and it was a major influence on Nick Land.
Taylor's Links:
https://soundcloud.com/user-659574533
https://soundcloud.com/theory-talk
https://fractalontology.wordpress.com/
https://twitter.com/tadkins613
Cute Noumena:
https://twitter.com/CNoumena
https://linktr.ee/Cute_Noumena
Yung Agamben:
https://twitter.com/YAgamben
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