In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Patti Fletcher, author of Disrupters: Success Strategies From Women Who Break the Mold, to explore the concepts of Disruptors and Catalysts—and why business needs these innate change-makers now more than ever to drive sustainable outcomes.

Patti challenges the traditional mindset (and us!) around the language of “empowering” Catalysts, urging leaders instead to acknowledge the inherent power within individuals and focus on equipping them to lead transformational change. She emphasizes the critical shift from transactional leadership to transformational leadership—where executives, including Catalysts, don’t just direct but actively remove obstacles and create environments where change can thrive.

We also dive into the concept of decision interruption, a powerful method to disrupt unconscious bias without shame or blame. Patti reminds us that real change happens when we understand how and why people think the way they do—and then bring them along on the journey.

You won’t want to miss this compelling conversation that will leave you rethinking leadership, agency, and potentially even your path to meaningful impact. As Patti writes:

“My catalyst came when I realized I wasn’t put on this earth to fulfill someone else’s dream. I made the conscious choice to leave that trajectory so I could find my own path to happiness”

Original music by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lynz Floren⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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