George Conway Explains It All (To Sarah Longwell) S2 Ep134: George Conway: How Trump Plans to Bury the Epstein Files
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Nov 24, 2025 
George Conway, an attorney and co-founder of the Society for the Rule of Law, joins to dive into the political turmoil of the moment. He shares insights on Dick Cheney's defense of democracy, sharply contrasting it with Trump's authoritarian tactics. They discuss Trump's divisive rhetoric towards veterans and the ongoing battle over the Epstein files, revealing legal complexities and what could be withheld by the DOJ. Conway also breaks down Texas' gerrymandering issues, the ramifications for future elections, and the implications of a potential Comey indictment.
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Cheney's Character Versus Trumpism
- Dick Cheney's late-life actions contrasted sharply with Trumpism's authoritarianism and personal attacks.
- George Conway says Cheney prioritized country over party and publicly warned about Trump's danger to democracy.
At Cheney's State Funeral
- George Conway recounts attending Dick Cheney's state funeral and being struck by family tributes and themes of duty.
- He notes Cheney's endorsement of Democrats late in life as a profound, character-driven choice.
Trump's Goal: Division Over Policy
- Conway and Longwell argue Trump intentionally seeks division and cruelty rather than merely making policy mistakes.
- They call Trump's praise of MBS and comments about Khashoggi evidence of moral bankruptcy.