The Eric Metaxas Show

On Myth as a Vehicle for Truth A Dialogues Conversation with Holly Ordway & Louis Markos

Sep 20, 2025
Holly Ordway, a Tolkien scholar and author, and Louis Markos, a C.S. Lewis expert, engage in a fascinating dialogue about the intertwining lives and literary genius of these two iconic authors. They delve into the power of imagination and its role in conveying truth. Topics include the mythical worlds of Narnia and Middle-earth, the dynamics of their friendship, and the moral choices depicted in their stories. The discussion highlights how their works balance reason with creativity, offering profound insights into good, evil, and the human experience.
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Imagination As A Meaning-Making Faculty

  • Imagination is the human faculty that makes meaning from sensory data and hands images to reason for judgment.
  • Holly Ordway argues Lewis and Tolkien nourish imagination so reason can evaluate truthful images.
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Lewis Marries Reason And Imagination

  • C.S. Lewis marries imagination and reason to do apologetics in ways purely logical arguments cannot.
  • Louis Markos says Lewis incarnates arguments into stories like Narnia so both minds are engaged.
ANECDOTE

Mark's Return To Wonder In Fiction

  • In The Hideous Strength, Mark rediscovers his lost sense of the 'normal' when faced with a lopsided room and bubbling memory.
  • Louis Markos uses this scene to show Lewis reclaiming wonder and imagination after faith's return.
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