This week, Kenzie Ziegler climbed into bed with us!! We had some deep pillow talk about the friendship breakup that still haunts her, dove into the… complexities of modern families, and discussed how childhood traumas shape-shift as we grow up.

Kenzie opened up about her relationship with her dad, the moment we start feeling insecure about our bodies, and the shocking way she found out her boyfriend cheated— thanks to a YouTube video. We also gushed over our older sisters, and pondered why we both really need to start being 'worse' friends.

Kenzie’s album Biting My Tongue comes out July 26th!! 

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Executive Producers Jade Iovine + Catherine Law

Audio Engineer Brandon Dickert