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Trump’s plan for “Peace” in Ukraine only pleases Putin + The Politics of Modern Love

Feb 20, 2025

Shon Faye, a journalist and author renowned for her work on transgender issues, joins the discussion to unravel the complexities of modern love and loneliness in a capitalist society. She highlights how societal pressures and consumerism impact emotional connections, particularly amongst men. The conversation also shifts to geopolitical tensions as Trump brokers a controversial meeting with Russia over Ukraine, sidelining key players and raising ethical questions. Humor and political critique abound as they confront the profit motives behind arms manufacturing amidst conflicts.

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Quick takeaways

Trump's recent geopolitical maneuvers regarding Ukraine, particularly the exclusion of local leaders from peace talks, highlight significant risks for European security.

Keir Starmer's proposal to consider deploying UK troops in Ukraine reflects a contentious debate balancing foreign military commitments against domestic priorities.

The rise of dating apps under capitalism has led to superficial connections and increased loneliness, complicating modern romantic relationships across socio-economic divides.

Deep dives

Trump's Foreign Policy Shift and Its Impact on Europe

Recent changes in Trump's foreign policy have left Europe in a precarious position, as he suggested that the focus of the American military should shift away from European security. This shift raises concerns about the future of the transatlantic relationship, particularly after a high-stakes meeting between Russia and the United States in Riyadh, which excluded key European players and Ukrainian leaders from negotiations. British Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s proposition of deploying British forces to Ukraine as part of a peacekeeping effort, contingent on a US backstop, signals a potential intensification of political commitments in the region. However, many European leaders are hesitant to make similar commitments, indicating a broader unease about escalating military involvement without adequate resources or strategic backing.

Intro

2min

Geopolitical Tensions and Transatlantic Relations

9min

Civilians Caught in Conflict: Political Reflections and Cultural Insights

2min

Critique of Anti-Migrant Politics in the UK

2min

Exploring Modern Love and Business Growth

2min

The Crisis of Loneliness and Modern Relationships

20min

Navigating Hate and Humanity in Modern Discourse

5min

Navigating Online Safety Regulations

9min

Silicon Valley Eccentricities and Podcast Connections

3min

As Europe looks on in disbelief, Donald Trump has been throwing his geopolitical weight around. A monumental meeting with Russia to discuss ending the war in Ukraine was held without Ukraine or Europe.Trump then branded Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelenskyy a “dictator” and accused Ukraine of starting the conflict.

Keir Starmer has said he is “ready and willing” to put UK troops on the ground in Ukraine. But is this the answer? And as shares in major arms manufacturers soar, who’s profiting? Nish and Coco chew it over.

And from war to love - loneliness is on the rise but according to journalist and author Shon Faye, the problem isn’t us, it’s capitalism. Phew! She joins Nish and Coco to discuss the highly politicised terrain of modern romance - and why it eludes us.

Later, Tortoise tech reporter Patricia Clarke calls in to discuss what the government can do about our unhealthy social media habits and if the Online Safety Bill holds up.

And Starmer has been ambushed by tractor-driving farmers blasting out… “Sandstorm” by Darude. Yes, Darude.

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Love in Exile by Shon Faye https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/453476/love-in-exile-by-faye-shon/9780241605981

Guests
Shon Faye
Patricia Clarke

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The Guardian
The White House
UK Government

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