Justin and John sit down with Max Bergmann, director of the Europe Program at CSIS. Max joins after weeks of controversy over German and American provision of tanks to Ukraine. The group discuss whether arms provisions will continue, whether Russia considers this an "escalation," and what the consequences of that could be. They also address Turkey's moves to block the accession of Sweden to NATO, the state of populist politics on the European continent, and how European leaders view Joe Biden's performance as U.S. president.

Read more from Max here: https://www.csis.org/people/max-bergmann