In this unique episode, I had the chance to interview two of my friends live at the Brothers Helping Brothers Conference in Ohio. Both were impacted by the attack at the Pulse Nightclub in different ways. Jeff had created the Orlando Firefighters' Peer Support team a few short years prior to the event. Raul was one of the SWAT officers that ultimately neutralized the assailant. We discuss their early lives and journeys into the first responder professions, mental health, active shooter training, the gensis of the Peer Support team, SWAT training, Raul's powerful story from the incident, the aftermath and so much more.